In this intimate conversation, visionary Jefferson Hack meets with icon Tilda Swinton to reflect on her ever-expanding artistic legacy, shaped by creative relationships that continue to redefine the boundaries of cinema.

Swinton meditates on the alchemy forged when singular minds dance together – from her earliest work with avant-garde filmmaker Derek Jarman, filming the un-filmable with Sally Potter, and channeling her grandmother's makeup routine for Wes Anderson.

Hack’s curiosity amplifies Swinton’s poetic disposition during a lively exchange about creative process and identity – and how the boundaries between art and life dissolve across friendship and collaboration.

This is the latest episode of Hack’s podcast, Where It’s At, and he caught up with Swinton just as a dedicated exhibition ‘Tilda Swinton – Ongoing’ opened at Amsterdam’s @eyefilmNL (until 8th February 2026). In her curation of the exhibition, Swinton pays homage to her pioneering collaborators across art, film, and fashion.

Featuring: Jefferson Hack & Tilda Swinton

Producer: Noor Miah

Commissioning Director: Katie Metcalfe

DOP: Harold Williams

Camera Assistant: Nick Chandler

Audio Engineer: Craig Heptinstall

Studio Assistant: Andres Albert

Audio Engineer: James Nicolau

Editor: Cayetano García Sahurie, Panos Agamemnos

Set Designer: Ellen Wilson

Florist: Hamish Powell

Hair Stylist: Declan Sheils

Makeup Artist: Sam Bryant

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